Opinion: Subbrands Are A Marketing Failure

Tim Healey
by Tim Healey

Automakers seem to love the idea of subbrands.

The most recent one to make this sort of shift -- Land Rover.

What I can't figure out is: Why?


Put aside, for a second, that Land Rover is retiring, at least for now, a recognizable brand name that presumably has a lot of brand equity. The larger question is -- do consumers even care?

I would wager that they don't -- and that they don't even know.

Here's an example. I was at a recent event where I ran into my local Stellantis PR rep and I cracked a joke about using a "Jeep Wagoneer" for a task. I was politely reminded that there shouldn't be "Jeep" in front of "Wagoneer."

But the thing is, we still call it a Jeep Wagoneer, in part because we're sort of on a case-by-case basis when it comes to indulging weird naming patterns at an OEM's request, and in part because of search optimization.

And it's not just us -- neither Cars.com nor AutoTrader, the two biggest consumer sites, have Wagoneer listed as a brand. Both list Wagoneer as a model under Jeep as a make.

It's a bit like that line from Mean Girls: "Stop Trying to Make Fetch Happen." Stop trying to make subbrands happen.

I haven't tried this experiment yet, but I bet if I talk to friends and say I am driving a Wagoneer without specifying it's a Jeep, at least some folks wouldn't know what it is, or that it's made by Stellantis and sold right next to Jeeps at the dealer.

Similarly, people will know that a Defender is a Land Rover, but if I say "It's a 110, made by Defender" I am gonna get some weird looks.

Heck, Land Rover was already confusing with the "Land Rover Range Rover" nomenclature.

It's one thing to build out a full-on luxury brand the way Toyota did with Lexus. That works, because there's a distinction in styling and the dealerships are separate. But a subbrand just ends up confusing consumers (and sometimes, us) and doesn't really move the needle. It's anecdotal, I know, but I don't hear people talking about the Wagoneer as if it's separate from Jeep. Unless, of course, they work for Stellantis.

The only time subbrands seem to work is with performance vehicles. BMW M, Mercedes-Benz AMG, and Ford's Shelby Mustangs. It seems to work in those cases because cars slapped with those labels are built on cars that aren't part of the subbrand -- M3 on the 3-Series, and so on -- and because most have a history. Then again, the relatively recent use of N for Hyundai works -- again, because N or N-Line models are based on mainstream vehicles, as opposed to the company trying to make an individual model into a subbrand, as Jeep and Land Rover are doing.

I could be wrong. I am no highly-paid marketing consultant. But for now, it sure seems like the subbrand experiment is too confusing to work.

[Image: Land Rover (or is it Defender?)]

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Tim Healey
Tim Healey

Tim Healey grew up around the auto-parts business and has always had a love for cars — his parents joke his first word was “‘Vette”. Despite this, he wanted to pursue a career in sports writing but he ended up falling semi-accidentally into the automotive-journalism industry, first at Consumer Guide Automotive and later at Web2Carz.com. He also worked as an industry analyst at Mintel Group and freelanced for About.com, CarFax, Vehix.com, High Gear Media, Torque News, FutureCar.com, Cars.com, among others, and of course Vertical Scope sites such as AutoGuide.com, Off-Road.com, and HybridCars.com. He’s an urbanite and as such, doesn’t need a daily driver, but if he had one, it would be compact, sporty, and have a manual transmission.

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  • Tonycd Tonycd on May 03, 2023

    Sub-brands don't have value, except when they do. About 25 years ago, Honda saw some market research that their Legend and Integra sub-brands were more recognized by consumers than the Acura name was. Perversely, instead of playing to their strengths, misguided Acura executives responded with an attempt to ram the parent brand down consumers' throats, abolishing the popular sub-brands and naming every model "Acura" followed by meaningless alphabet-soup gibberish.


    Predictably, the result was a sales carnage that took years to recover from. In some ways, they arguably never recovered. They've never regained the lost share at the sedan high-end abandoned by the Legend, and they ultimately gave up. And the Integra name retained so much more luster than its alphabet-soup replacements, Acura has just brought it back.

  • Marky S. Marky S. on Sep 19, 2023

    How about what Hyundai did? For model year 2017, Hyundai took the name of their top-line sedan and coupe - "Genesis" - and turned it into a brand on its own. As we can see , in North America, this has worked very well for for them. Chrysler did the same thing with their Imperial luxury cars, and created a top-line brand with that name in 1955. This worked well for them until 1975, when they needed to economize their offerings.

  • Redapple2 I gave up on Honda. My 09 Accord Vs my 03. The 09s- V 6 had a slight shudder when deactivating cylinders. And the 09 did not have the 03 's electro luminescent gages. And the 09 had the most uncomfortable seats. My brother bought his 3rd and last Honda CRV. Brutal seats after 25 minutes. NOW, We are forever Toyota, Lexus, Subaru people now despite HAVING ACCESS TO gm EMPLOYEE DISCOUNT. Despite having access to the gm employee discount. Man, that is a massive statement. Wow that s bad - Under no circumstances will I have that govna crap.
  • Redapple2 Front tag obscured. Rear tag - clear and sharp. Huh?
  • Redapple2 I can state what NOT to buy. HK. High theft. Insurance. Unrefined NVH. Rapidly degrading interiors. HK? No way !
  • Luke42 Serious answer:Now that I DD an EV, buying an EV to replace my wife’s Honda Civic is in the queue. My wife likes her Honda, she likes Apple CarPlay, and she can’t stand Elon Musk - so Tesla starts the competition with two demerit-points and Honda starts the competition with one merit-point.The Honda Prologue looked like a great candidate until Honda announced that the partnership with GM was a one-off thing and that their future EVs would be designed in-house.Now I’m more inclined toward the Blazer EV, the vehicle on which the Prologue is based. The Blazer EV and the Ultium platform won’t be orphaned by GM any time soon. But then I have to convince my wife she would like it better than her Honda Civic, and that’s a heavy lift because she doesn’t have any reason to be dissatisfied with her current car (I take care of all of the ICE-hassles for her).Since my wife’s Honda Civic is holding up well, since she likes the car, and since I take care of most of the drawbacks of drawbacks of ICE ownership for her, there’s no urgency to replace this vehicle.Honestly, if a paid-off Honda Civic is my wife’s automotive hill to die on, that’s a pretty good place to be - even though I personally have to continue dealing the hassles and expenses of ICE ownership on her behalf.My plan is simply to wait-and-see what Honda does next. Maybe they’ll introduce the perfect EV for her one day, and I’ll just go buy it.
  • 2ACL I have a soft spot for high-performance, shark-nosed Lancers (I considered the less-potent Ralliart during the period in which I eventually selected my first TL SH-AWD), but it's can be challenging to find a specimen that doesn't exhibit signs of abuse, and while most of the components are sufficiently universal in their function to service without manufacturer support, the SST isn't one of them. The shops that specialize in it are familiar with the failure as described by the seller and thus might be able to fix this one at a substantial savings to replacement. There's only a handful of them in the nation, however. A salvaged unit is another option, but the usual risks are magnified by similar logistical challenges to trying to save the original.I hope this is a case of the seller overvaluing the Evo market rather than still owing or having put the mods on credit. Because the best offer won't be anywhere near the current listing.
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