QOTD: Do You Actually Care About Chinese Imports?

Matt Posky
by Matt Posky

Following our coverage of the Lincoln Nautilus Hybrid, reader feedback seemed overwhelmingly focused on the vehicle being manufactured in China. This was interesting because the article dealt exclusively with updates to the vehicle, which is technically still a product of North America.

But Ford Motor Co. has confirmed that the next-generation Nautilus will indeed be imported from China so that the Canadian facility currently responsible for U.S. volume can be transitioned into an electric-vehicle plant.


The midsize crossover is currently produced at Ford’s Oakville Assembly Plant in Ontario, Canada. However, the automaker had announced an investment of $1.8 billion CAN ($1.34 billion USD) to prep the site for all-electric vehicles.


While the Lincoln Nautilus isn’t sublimely popular, averaging around 25,000 sales in the U.S. annually, having Oakville Assembly down means Ford had to come up with something and it elected to pull China out of the bullpen — setting the SUV up to become Ford’s very first Chinese import.


In some respects, this is a shrewd move. General Motors managed to make inroads on the Asian market by selling premium-badged products to Chinese customers that viewed brands like Cadillac and Buick as a cut above. Localizing some of its production there similarly helped GM build good faith in what’s now the world’s largest automotive market.


Ford has struggled by comparison. Though it’s been taking action that has helped improve Chinese sales figures in recent years — the worst period of the pandemic notwithstanding.


But there are risks involved. Tensions between China and the U.S. have been rising and Americans, beleaguered by a weakening economy, may not look favorably on a product they would have preferred to see produced locally. Canadians at least have the benefit of knowing they’re getting an upgraded factory out of the deal.


Everyone seems to be talking about it and trying to decide whether or not this is a smart play for Blue Oval. But, while the peanut gallery gripes, CNBC pointed out the reality of the situation:


Importing a vehicle from China to the U.S. is not unprecedented but can draw public and political criticism or backlash, especially when tensions between the two countries are high.
Most notably, General Motors has been criticized for importing its Buick Envision crossover from China to the U.S. since 2016. The Detroit automaker has sold more than 200,000 of the China-made vehicles, which American union officials have called the “Invasion” and “a slap in the face.”
Importing a vehicle from overseas to the U.S. can make good business sense, however, for a company such as Ford.
“In this case, it’s a good use of resources,” said Stephanie Brinley, associate director of research at S&P Global Mobility. “Without importing, Lincoln does not get the product, and the brand needs products between now and when its EVs arrive.”


Ford has offered up a similar explanation, stating that Lincoln is a global brand focused on growth. It already makes the Nautilus in China and the vehicle sells nearly as well there as it does here. A spokesperson from the company said that it makes sense to localize production as it provides an opportunity “to gain manufacturing efficiencies and retool our Oakville facility to get ready to build our next generation EVs.”


Meanwhile, Lincoln’s U.S. volumes are nowhere near the highs of the 1990s. The last few decades have shown the automaker struggling in the home market, with some modest improvement after 2014. But it’s not exactly a comeback and the company is probably thinking there won’t ever be one unless it can sell more vehicles in other parts of the world.


That puts Lincoln in a less-than-enviable position. But it doesn’t mean consumers are going to care in the slightest. People seem to be genuinely upset that Ford plans on importing the Nautilus and it may ultimately hurt Ford’s bottom line on the domestic market. Customers are already annoyed with lackluster reliability and ever-expanding MSRPs. It may be unwise to give them something else to complain about.


In the interim, we expect Ford to continue reminding everyone that it’s still technically the number-one automaker in regard to vehicles assembled and hourly workers employed inside of North America.


The question for you is how much that really matters. Are you someone that would think twice about buying from a domestic manufacturer that’s importing vehicles (even if it’s just one) from China? Or is the Chinese connection an irrelevant factor when determining your next ride?


[Image: Ford Motor Co.]

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Matt Posky
Matt Posky

A staunch consumer advocate tracking industry trends and regulation. Before joining TTAC, Matt spent a decade working for marketing and research firms based in NYC. Clients included several of the world’s largest automakers, global tire brands, and aftermarket part suppliers. Dissatisfied with the corporate world and resentful of having to wear suits everyday, he pivoted to writing about cars. Since then, that man has become an ardent supporter of the right-to-repair movement, been interviewed on the auto industry by national radio broadcasts, driven more rental cars than anyone ever should, participated in amateur rallying events, and received the requisite minimum training as sanctioned by the SCCA. Handy with a wrench, Matt grew up surrounded by Detroit auto workers and managed to get a pizza delivery job before he was legally eligible. He later found himself driving box trucks through Manhattan, guaranteeing future sympathy for actual truckers. He continues to conduct research pertaining to the automotive sector as an independent contractor and has since moved back to his native Michigan, closer to where the cars are born. A contrarian, Matt claims to prefer understeer — stating that front and all-wheel drive vehicles cater best to his driving style.

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  • Fah-Que Fah-Que on Apr 22, 2023

    IMO, it has nothing to do with anything but profits. I lost all faith in anything Ford puts out there after the Powershift transmission issue (A family member got double fisted without lube by Ford on that one) so after that and Ford's continuing quality issues (Bring back the old motto with a variation: At Ford, Quality is Job NONE!). Ford is clearly unwilling to compete with Toyota and Honda, who are still selling cars. Less, of course but look around and all the Camrys, Accords, Corollas and Civics still selling. So many still on the road. How many Fusions are still out there? How about the Focus?


    The level of corporate ignorance is staggering. Ford's screw ups are legendary. I remember an interview with some idiot who was in charge of branding a number of years ago when Ford decided that every car's name would start with an "F", except for the Mustang and Thunderbird, of course and every truck name would start with an "E". The branding moron was quoted in that interview that they didnt understand the name "Camry" and who would actually buy a car with that name?


    How about the third generation Taurus? I refer to it as the "SupposiTaurus" as it really resembled something that was forcibly pushed through a sphincter. Ford, in their finite wisdom, removed standard features from the previous generation and raised the price. When it started losing sales to the Camry and Accord, dealers said to the "silver tower" what was happening and the corporate response was "No, it isnt".

    Welcome to the Camry unseating the Taurus as the best selling car in the US.


    Ford and GM (I have no experience with Stellantis/Chrysler so I will not comment on them) both dont give a damn about American jobs, much like many other American manufacturers. Its all about the profits.

  • David McKenna David McKenna on Aug 04, 2023

    I wanted to buyAmerican. I’ve had only foreign cars for many years [2 decades] I didn’t buy a Buick because it was made in China. I bought a Lincoln because it was made here.

  • Varezhka I have still yet to see a Malibu on the road that didn't have a rental sticker. So yeah, GM probably lost money on every one they sold but kept it to boost their CAFE numbers.I'm personally happy that I no longer have to dread being "upgraded" to a Maxima or a Malibu anymore. And thankfully Altima is also on its way out.
  • Tassos Under incompetent, affirmative action hire Mary Barra, GM has been shooting itself in the foot on a daily basis.Whether the Malibu cancellation has been one of these shootings is NOT obvious at all.GM should be run as a PROFITABLE BUSINESS and NOT as an outfit that satisfies everybody and his mother in law's pet preferences.IF the Malibu was UNPROFITABLE, it SHOULD be canceled.More generally, if its SEGMENT is Unprofitable, and HALF the makers cancel their midsize sedans, not only will it lead to the SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST ones, but the survivors will obviously be more profitable if the LOSERS were kept being produced and the SMALL PIE of midsize sedans would yield slim pickings for every participant.SO NO, I APPROVE of the demise of the unprofitable Malibu, and hope Nissan does the same to the Altima, Hyundai with the SOnata, Mazda with the Mazda 6, and as many others as it takes to make the REMAINING players, like the Excellent, sporty Accord and the Bulletproof Reliable, cheap to maintain CAMRY, more profitable and affordable.
  • GregLocock Car companies can only really sell cars that people who are new car buyers will pay a profitable price for. As it turns out fewer and fewer new car buyers want sedans. Large sedans can be nice to drive, certainly, but the number of new car buyers (the only ones that matter in this discussion) are prepared to sacrifice steering and handling for more obvious things like passenger and cargo space, or even some attempt at off roading. We know US new car buyers don't really care about handling because they fell for FWD in large cars.
  • Slavuta Why is everybody sweating? Like sedans? - go buy one. Better - 2. Let CRV/RAV rust on the dealer lot. I have 3 sedans on the driveway. My neighbor - 2. Neighbors on each of our other side - 8 SUVs.
  • Theflyersfan With sedans, especially, I wonder how many of those sales are to rental fleets. With the exception of the Civic and Accord, there are still rows of sedans mixed in with the RAV4s at every airport rental lot. I doubt the breakdown in sales is publicly published, so who knows... GM isn't out of the sedan business - Cadillac exists and I can't believe I'm typing this but they are actually decent - and I think they are making a huge mistake, especially if there's an extended oil price hike (cough...Iran...cough) and people want smaller and hybrids. But if one is only tied to the quarterly shareholder reports and not trends and the big picture, bad decisions like this get made.
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